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Every week on the pm73media, Matt Stephenson interviews leading authorities in the security industry to gain an expert perspective on topics including risk, control friction, compliance, and building a culture of security. Each episode provides relevant insights for security practitioners and business leaders working to improve their organization’s security posture and bottom line.

May 10, 2022

Standing in line, marking time
Waiting for the welfare dime
'Cause they can't buy a job
The man in the silk suit hurries by
As he catches the poor old ladies' eyes
Just for fun he says, "get a job"

That's just the way it is
Some things will never change
That's just the way it is
Ah, but don't you believe them

 -- Bruce Hornsby

You tired of hearing about that 3.5 million open cybersecurity jobs number? You know for the open I like to bring either culture or data… let’s go with some data this time.

How bout we dig a little deeper? There are nearly 465,000 unfilled cyber jobs across the nation. (ISC)2 says that globally, the cybersecurity industry is short 3.1 million workers and that in the U.S. alone, another 879,000 are needed.

  • Analytics Insight forecasts 10,006,993 new job openings in cybersecurity by 2023
    • compared to 3,241,800 job openings in 2019
  • Cybersecurity has the widest gap between the workforce skills needs and the people who possess those skills
  • MIT Technology Review
    • fewer than 25% of applicants are qualified for open positions.
  • Medium reports that ICO fines, incessantly evolving threats, and fewer tools are "creating exhaustion" among cybersecurity professionals.

Let’s add this from a Google search… As we are all more than likely familiar with how Google searches work. This… from the “People also ask” section

  • Is cybersecurity a high paying job?
  • Is cyber security a good career?
  • What jobs can you do with cyber security?
  • What are 3 jobs in cybersecurity?

Valid questions one and all… What is actually happening in the world of Cybersecurity talent?

Well… I got A Guy…


Today Matt Stephenson welcomes Matt Donato, Executive Director at cybersecurity talent firm CyberSN. We dig deep into all that is happening the world of cybersecurity with regard to is working where, why they join, why they leave and why even work for someone else at all. From the Great Resignation to the Great Opportunity there has never been a more dynamic time in the world of Cybersecurity. And we have just the expert to navigate these choppy waters… dig it…


About Matt Donato

Matt Donato

Matt Donato is an Executive Direact at CyberSN. He is an accomplished business leader in the field of cybersecurity executive search, staffing, workforce solutions, human capital management, client acquisition, business development, and relationship management. 

Matt has over 16 years of experience in professional recruiting, talent management, strategic consulting, and staffing experience in all facets within the cybersecurity industry as well as staffing in the security, risk management technology, finance, operations, and engineering sectors. 

Once upon a time, he played Top Flight college Lacrosse. While he may not do that any more, he still plays a pretty mean guitar.


About Matt Stephenson

Matt Stephenson

My name is Matt Stephenson (@packmatt73) and I have hosted podcasts, videos and live events all over the world which put me with experts on every corner of the cybersecurity landscape. pm73media is my first solo endeavor. On this platform and others to come, I will continue to expand upon the tradition we started with the Insecurity podcast as I seek out the leading minds in the tech industry and beyond. I am always looking for fun people who may break things every now and again.

In 20 years in the ecosystem of Data Protection and Cybersecurity I have toured the world extolling the virtues of Artificial Intelligence and Machine Learning and how, when applied to information security, these technologies can wrong-foot the bad guys.

Whether in person, live virtual events or podcasting, I get to interview interesting people doing interesting things all over the world of technology and the extended world of hacking. Sometimes, that means hacking elections or the coffee supply chain... other times that means social manipulation or the sovereign wealth fund of a national economy.

Wherever I go, my job is all about talking with the people who build, manage or wreck the systems that we have put in place to make the world go round...


If you tuned in to any of my previous podcasts, there’s great news…! pm73media is here! I will be bringing the same kind of energy and array of guests you know and love. Best part? We’re still at the same spot. You can find it at Spotify, Apple, Amazon Music & Audible as well as GooglePlay, Gaana, Himalaya, I Heart Radio and wherever you get your podcasts!


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