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Every week on the pm73media, Matt Stephenson interviews leading authorities in the security industry to gain an expert perspective on topics including risk, control friction, compliance, and building a culture of security. Each episode provides relevant insights for security practitioners and business leaders working to improve their organization’s security posture and bottom line.

May 18, 2022


Mouse Trap


How can we make a better mousetrap if the designers of and the materials that go into the contemporary mousetraps aren’t good enough to keep pace with the current mouse?


Adapt or perish… now as ever, is nature’s inexorable imperative

 --HG Wells


It is not the strongest species that survie, nor the most intelligent… but the ones most responsive to change

 --Charles Darwin


You improvise! You adapt! You overcome!

 -- Gunnery Sgt Tom Highway; Heartbreak Ridge


All due respect to the United States Air Force


Do you know what SecDevOps is? Do you know how when or why the concept applies to cybersecurity and the world at large? What if I told you that there are people out there who personify the definition of what we identify as SecDevOps.


Well… I gotta guy…


On today’s episode, Matt Stephenson welcomes Mike Fraser, VP of DevSecOps at Sophos. We take a look at the role that developers can and must play in the world of cybersecurity. These aren’t the folks building the security building... the are the ones making the bricks and hammers used to construct that building. How important are the materials used to construct the very infrastructure of an entire industry? Tune in and find out...


About Mike Fraser

Mike Fraser

Mike Fraser is Vice President of DevSecOps at Sophos. Previously, he was co-founder, CEO and chief architect at Refactr (acquired by Sophos in 2021) where he spearheaded the creation of a DevSecOps automation platform that bridges the gap between DevOps and cybersecurity.


Mike is a regular speaker at numerous industry events, including Hashiconf, Hashitalks, KubeSec, various Microsoft events, RedHat AnsibleFest, DevOps Days, and All Day DevOps.


He has also published several feature articles including on TechCrunch, RSA 365, and


In addition to his Sophos role, Mike helps advise other veteran-led software startups. While leading Refactr, Mike earned a bachelor's degree in application development from North Seattle College and has a master's degree in computer science from Seattle University.


He is also, and it is clearly stated on his CV, the World’s Coolest Dad


About Matt Stephenson

Matt Stephenson

My name is Matt Stephenson (@packmatt73) and I have hosted podcasts, videos and live events all over the world which put me with experts on every corner of the cybersecurity landscape. pm73media is my first solo endeavor. On this platform and others to come, I will continue to expand upon the tradition we started with the Insecurity podcast as I seek out the leading minds in the tech industry and beyond. I am always looking for fun people who may break things every now and again.


In 20 years in the ecosystem of Data Protection and Cybersecurity I have toured the world extolling the virtues of Artificial Intelligence and Machine Learning and how, when applied to information security, these technologies can wrong-foot the bad guys.


Whether in person, live virtual events or podcasting, I get to interview interesting people doing interesting things all over the world of technology and the extended world of hacking. Sometimes, that means hacking elections or the coffee supply chain... other times that means social manipulation or the sovereign wealth fund of a national economy.


Wherever I go, my job is all about talking with the people who build, manage or wreck the systems that we have put in place to make the world go round...


If you tuned in to any of my previous podcasts, there’s great news…! pm73media is here! I will be bringing the same kind of energy and array of guests you know and love. Best part? We’re still at the same spot. You can find it at Spotify, Apple, Amazon Music & Audible as well as GooglePlay, Gaana, Himalaya, I Heart Radio and wherever you get your podcasts!


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